JJ's MMO Central Forums Posts (posts 601-660)

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My TOONERIFIC dance!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-29 06:37 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31242#post31242

I am not using an IMG image!!I attached it from a file!!!The picture is "the dance" this will not work!!

My TOONERIFIC dance!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-29 04:53 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31224#post31224

aaaak!!!!does not work!! It is a .gif picture!!

My TOONERIFIC dance!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-29 04:47 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31223#post31223

What happen to my pic and why is there another post????ehhhh???huh I'll try again let's see if it works this time!!

My TOONERIFIC dance!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-29 04:32 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31114#post31114

here is a crazy dance I made..Hope you like it!!Cuase I did a hard work!!

My TOONERIFIC dance!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-29 04:24 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31112#post31112

here is a crazy dance I made..Hope you like it!!Cuase I did a hard work!!

Boot Camp Question

Forum: Dead Polls

Date: 2003-05-29 12:13 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31097#post31097

Yep I did not really want it on TEST becuase only a lil toons are there..Well I think...

Lil Old Man???

Forum: Test Archive

Date: 2003-05-28 05:25 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30933#post30933

bunch of gibberish

Coming Soon

Forum: ToonTown News Archive

Date: 2003-05-28 05:14 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30932#post30932


Special report from Toon Headquaters:

Calling all old-school Toons! We're shaking things up a bit with a new way to earn your beans. In the near future, one of the friendly officers at your neighborhood Toon Headquarters will offer you a new kind of task. Your mission: Show new players what it takes to be a master Toon! Help a needy novice by lending a hand in battles and building restoration -- they can't defeat the Cogs without you! Complete this task and you will be handsomely rewarded with bonuses and jelly beans aplenty. The more Toons you help, the more jelly beans you get -- it's that simple! AND you'll feel warm and fuzzy for doing all those good deeds -- what could be better? So get ready to show the new Toons how it's done!

New look housing

Forum: Test Archive

Date: 2003-05-28 04:53 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30929#post30929

Quote:
Originally said by Pinks
I can't understand you
I really agree I WANT MY PORCH!!! WHAAA!!!!!:(

What is your favorite toon animal?

Forum: Dead Polls

Date: 2003-05-28 04:41 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30928#post30928

DUCKS,bunnies, and kitties!!!Just like my old pal Princess CuddlesSparkleswirl!!Prof. Gloob!!!And me J.J. THE DUCK GIRL!!Oh my deleted toons are J.C. the AZN duck boy J.J. the duck boy and J.C. the duck boy

what types of cogs have invaded?

Forum: Dead Polls

Date: 2003-05-28 04:36 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30927#post30927

I saw more then 20 cog invasions...

Boot Camp Question

Forum: Dead Polls

Date: 2003-05-28 03:28 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30925#post30925

What do you think of the BootCamp Scrat made?

Gag Boot Camp on LE (open) servers?

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-28 03:13 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30924#post30924

Quote:
Originally posted by Scrat
please stay tuned :)
heh what about please stay TOONED heh heh :D

Gag Boot Camp on LE (open) servers?

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-28 02:56 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30919#post30919

Ok Do I Have To Pm You to sign up and have to be friends with you?Well here is me my sighn up list thing:
Toon="J.J. the duck girl"
Gag="{Picture at the bttom)
Secret="(if I have to)

Money Bags in ToonValley

Forum: The Spent Gag

Date: 2003-05-28 01:43 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30907#post30907

OVER SORRY IF YOU MISSED IT!!!

Chat and sound

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-28 01:37 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30906#post30906

did you try Noooooooooooooooooo I did that before not noo but nooo heh heh

Money Bags in ToonValley

Forum: The Spent Gag

Date: 2003-05-28 01:24 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30905#post30905

Oops wrong thread!!

Money Bags in ToonValley

Forum: The Spent Gag

Date: 2003-05-28 01:23 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30904#post30904

Money Bags have taken over TOONTOWN!!
Distict ToonValley PLEASE FOR TOON SAKE HELP!!!!!

What would you do?

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-26 06:27 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30658#post30658

Hey Dyliess Can you show me one of your pics of your toon walking?And a pic of that other toon that you hate?
I am going to make a pretty good pic!
Oh and "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!"
Ps Please do not make fun of children like me!

Why can't I post in funny pages?

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-26 06:10 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30654#post30654

Well there is some Boards that you can put in posts and some only moderators can put in WIERD.Heh KB is EVIL IoI I tell you EVIL!!! Well he is the 1 who made this thread and for about more than a YEAR!!!So he might of had loked it in the first place!!

Play the N00bilator game

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-26 05:31 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30587#post30587

UH HUH! beatedt my self again!! whoot!!!
WOOW A LITTLE GUY LIKE ME LIKES THIS GAME!!
Oh and Squeaker HOW OLD ARE YOU?I just want to know!
I am 9 years...

Fishing on estates

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-26 04:55 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30585#post30585

how aout this image??

Play the N00bilator game

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-26 04:38 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30581#post30581

Quote:
Originally posted by Squeaker
Every time I get my score to 300, it takes me to the high scores.
Well that is a game that always bring you up to the score thingy-ma-bob heh

Lessons From a 5-year Old

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-26 02:07 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30565#post30565

Quote:
Originally posted by Pinks
If you see him and say "Hi" it would make his day. :)
Uhm why do ppl still use MY name? Like Henry Hen or Henry LUVER And that guy BABY HENRY
I do not know why?
My name is Henry
heh heh:D

Play the N00bilator game

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-24 06:17 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30235#post30235

Quote:
Originally posted by Sir_Spiffy
Humm, I do alot of programming of applications, especially applications like this... But I write the source code.



I just read the tutorials for Game Maker, that they offer, and understood all the if and then statements. Pretty darn easy. Their tutorials are fantastic! Carl, has some of the best examples that I know of. I use alot of his to help me out.

http://hem.passagen.se/birchdale/carl/examples.html
Uh thanks! I think I can make a better game then mine before....And your Music is WEIRD

Play the N00bilator game

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-24 05:37 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30227#post30227

Quote:
Originally posted by Sir_Spiffy
(UPDATED May, 23 2003) Version 2.0

LOL I created a 2D game for your enjoyment. When you get fed up with them intelligent N00bs that like to mess with people. Download this game, and throw an unlimmited amount of PIES at them.

Originally it was the Cogulator, but I thought N00bs would be better. This isnt a game I plan on selling or anything, its just for fun. Plus it has Disney owned images (the toons, pies) Last thing I want is to get sued! LOL




Anyway,
In this game you play a toon named Sir_Spiffy, and throw Birth-Day cakes at N00bs . You'll want to avoid coming in contact with the N00bs, they do pose a threat. The pies they throw don't need to be avoided, they never work as a N00b anyway.
Sage is one of the toons that pose as the N00bs.

Life: (updated)
You have to hit the N00bs 4 times for them to explode.
If you come in contact with a N00b, you will explode also. If you die, the game brings you to the top 10 score board, and you'll be able to type in your name. When you esc out of the Top 10 board the game will restart. Watch out, N00bs are accurate in throwing pies. (but they don't injure you)

Scoring:
the more N00bs you blow up the more points you get, currently you get 100 points for each N00b.

Timer:
Ignore it, unless you want to time yourself. It's animated, but not activated.

High Score:
At the end of each game (if you come in contact with a N00b) the High Score Board will be displayed, allowing you to type in your name.

Controls:
Arrow keys to move around the screen (Up, Down, Left, Right)
<Space> to fire pies
<Esc> to Exit
<F1> Displays Game information (this document)


Hope you enjoy it!

The files listed below are guarenteed virus free, and free of any malisious content, only if you download them from their original location.

It's 1.2 MB and is Version 2.0 (possible Final release)
http://www.defiantheroes.com/toon/N00bilator.exe

You can also Play Version 2.0 with the Main Street Electrical Parade music. LOL this file is 5 MB
http://www.defiantheroes.com/toon/N00bilatorWsnd.exe
Hey how did you use Game maker so well?I do not even know what to do!!Send me some pics of your work and I will figure ny game does not work! huh I will never figure it out!!!!
Oh and How did you get it to a website?????

Bug parade

Forum: Bug Guts

Date: 2003-05-24 05:19 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30226#post30226

CrEeEeEeEeEeEeEeEeEpY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw 10 toons holding books out at my Estates Before but they did not get invited!!I see one steping on my roof and jumping on it!!After I invited my Free-Trial friends wich is 20..they "HANG" on everything!3 Toons were mean with there books!,A toon flying like in DD,4 was breathing upside down!Huh I wish I still had a photo of that day but lost it! DARN!ok.9 toons standing like Ts,2 were uh let me say hanging out of they roof lips together..And me Lookin up in the MOUNTAINS!!Still remember! Ahh GOOD days!!

A cool new bug!!!!!!!!

Forum: Bug Guts

Date: 2003-05-24 05:07 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30225#post30225

Once I had 4 Toontask..Well from Lil Oldman of course then he came out of is desk and started moving around is was funny.. he was breathing and was walking but his feets weren't moving so what is it?HeGot throgh the door but it did not open...He was not even outside!!When I came back I finish all my Toontask and Lil Old man was back at his desk I mean "CHAIR" heh heh.So I finished my Toontask in one second!! They have never figured that out in Toontown!!Huh! :p
Ps.Don't have a picture!
Pps.Heh heh sorry!!
Ps2.Tell me if you have a Ps2..

Test down

Forum: ToonTown News Archive

Date: 2003-05-24 04:34 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30222#post30222

Quote:
Originally posted by PrincessPoppy
Or could it be Cog HQ?!
I Hope it is!!! FINALLY COG HQ!!!!!!!!!
I HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Old Forum, New Name

Forum: The Spent Gag

Date: 2003-05-23 11:55 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30189#post30189

right....

Lil Oldman in Buddy list!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-23 04:19 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30077#post30077

Quote:
I donno why I do this... Heh heh I'll get some more pics for you to see!!!
;)

Lil Oldman in Buddy list!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-23 04:17 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30076#post30076

I think he plays in another server! Look he has Laff points!!But we got to figure what server! Not test of course.Or even LE!!! ahh!! They are hiding some server for LUCKY ones!!(OPINION)

Lil Oldman in Buddy list!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-23 04:11 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30074#post30074

Quote:
Originally posted by BabsBunny
1. How did you do that?

-I've seen one screenshot of a friend request denial window saying "sorry, <cog name> does not want to be your friend"

(or something similar)
[list=1][*]If you are on 1,2,3, or 4 toontask save a space (Do not get another Toontask)[*]Go to The Brrgh[*]<--Walrus way[*]<--Blizzard Wizzard[*]<-- Go inside[*]Ask Lil Old man for a Toontask.[*]Click "Cancle" Or something[*]Press f9 and the words Lil Oldman said at the same time[*](Only press for 40 times)[/list=1]

Lil Oldman in Buddy list!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-23 01:27 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30053#post30053

Pics on lil old man..

New !Sever Down

Forum: ToonTown News Archive

Date: 2003-05-21 05:51 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29738#post29738

The game server is currently not ready.
Toontown is down for scheduled maintenance.
Toontown should be available after 11:15AM PDT.

District Down!

Forum: ToonTown News Archive

Date: 2003-05-21 12:13 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29688#post29688

Quote:
Originally posted by L.B.Twinklesped
And I thought it was just me. Hope it's back up soon.
It happened to everybody and it already just came back on!
I was wondering if you can come to my party....

Party at my house!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-20 11:10 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29668#post29668

Party at my house ! I will tell you when it ends!!!!;) Secrets..:
uvq 7dv
d72 stz
ezy j7k
Invited Friends:
Jon Bon Rovie
crazy Huey Fumblehoffer
Miss JennJenn
Prof. Peppy Gigglegadget
Caption Spunky Picklewhip
Pancho
Enzo The Baker
Enzo Dicharenta
Little Zigzag Rollenpuff
Babi Bunny
Sir Squeakalot
Little Katie Whiskerface
Lady Nani Dynoface
Electrozap
Olorin
Sir Clarence Electronerd
The Toons that give invatation to there friends are:
Jon Bon Rovie
crazy Huey Fumblehoffer
Miss JennJenn
Prof. Peppy Gigglegadget
Caption Spunky Picklewhip
Pancho
Enzo The Baker
Enzo Dicharenta
Little Zigzag Rollenpuff
Babi Bunny
Sir Squeakalot
Little Katie Whiskerface
Lady Nani Dynoface
Electrozap
Olorin
Sir Clarence Electronerd
Thank You and see you there!!
iT IS GOING TO START IN A PHEW MORE sECONDS..
Starting another one next time..

Estate Fishing for Tasks

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-20 03:40 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29474#post29474

[shadow c=black w=500 s=3]Jumps in joy *WHOOPEE*[/shadow]

stupid noobs *rant*

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-20 03:01 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29471#post29471

Quote:
Originally posted by Spunky
1. There are lots of kids on TT, so kids can be a pain? Deal with it.
3. What happened to 2?
4. There are lots of "kids" of 30 odd on TT who delight in the grief you describe second point you make. Real people can suck too. Not everyone is as open, loving and considerate as you are.
5. Control your language. This is a forum browsed by kids.
2. Ah! There it is.

If you want understanding, take a deep breath, think about what you want to say, and phrase it in a way that gets people on your side.

Welcome to TT:D
Hey wait a minute I am a kid a 8 1/2 years old kid!!!
Am I that stupid??
Hey theres a guy that plays with me and it's a newoobie he just defeat cogs until he gets a Birthday cake and he does! On a 3-dy free-Trial!! I am Da same thing!! And one more thing PLZ DONT CALL ME STUPID HEAD,HEN LUVER,HOWLING HEN,DIG MAN,AND MOST OF ALL TIM LOVER!!!!!

PL's Toontown Guide!!!

Forum: Old Tips, Tactics and Questions

Date: 2003-05-20 01:40 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29462#post29462

..this place is Tips, Tactics and Questions place..OH MY GOD!!!
Lady Nani Dynoface LEFT MY FRIENDS LIST!!!! AH!!!!!!!!!!:( Huh just like Princess Cuddles Sparkleswirl ... :( :( :( :( :(

PL's Toontown Guide!!!

Forum: Old Tips, Tactics and Questions

Date: 2003-05-19 11:59 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29445#post29445

Uhm I know I am not sopose to post in this thread but are 'ya still my friend on TT Lady Nani Dyno Face?? I am J.J. the duck girl .....Heh heh just wanna know!!

Looking for Lady Nani Dyno Face

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-19 11:56 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29444#post29444

hey if you are lady nani dyno face then you are my friend.[p]Your Friend,[p]J.J. the duck girl
Pic\/

Movie HELP!!!

Forum: Old Tips, Tactics and Questions

Date: 2003-05-19 11:43 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29439#post29439

How do you make a movie??I got win.XP I do not know what to do!! I do not know what to downlaod first and so on!! Can someone show me an EASY direction and win.XP= Window XP

Another Crime in the Brrrgh!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-19 10:39 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29419#post29419

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow I am working on that too!you know the news!..I am almost finish with it so I'll post it out someday!!!;)
Hey!Can I use some of your pics and toons???I'll love to make some good stuff!!!

Name Approved in TEN minutes

Forum: Test Archive

Date: 2003-05-19 10:06 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29416#post29416

Yeah I got that to!
But it was 5 Seconds mine was J.J. the duck girl!!!
Now I wished I was J.C. the AZN Girl.

Post all your News,Toontown Times, and MORE!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-18 08:43 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29222#post29222

Sorry about that you guys....did not know what to post!!! :D heh heh,so what are we sopse to post anyway???

New toontowner

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-18 08:39 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29220#post29220

I am not that new but a JUNOIR MEMBER or so... I was a old Toon..Well I played 12 Free-Trial...My subsribed Toon is 7 Weeks old thats why sometimes I call my self da OLDEST OF TOONTOWN!!!:p
Gag \/V

Post all your News,Toontown Times, and MORE!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-17 08:59 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29056#post29056

I have a Great Idea!
Post all your Specealties here!!! And I'll Post mine too! I am really working on mine but you'll know it is going to be great!!!!

Pic for Sir Clarence

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-17 08:37 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29052#post29052

A wierd Cog Otosopy...

Post your favorite Screenshots!

Forum: Old ScreenShots

Date: 2003-05-17 02:40 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28974#post28974

I do not get you was that on the last or any shots??What was that shot I am sorry for not making it clere:D

HeLp!!!!!!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-17 12:45 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28916#post28916

uhh It said it searched the whole Ducement!!!:D

HeLp!!!!!!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-17 12:26 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28913#post28913

I don't even know what to downlaod!!! TOO MuCh StUfF!!!!!!!
What should I downlaod anyway if is that the only way I am not trying to be bossy to you Topcat OK! HuH I JuSt DoNt KnOw WhAt To Do :o huh :(

HeLp!!!!!!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-17 12:22 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28912#post28912

Or was it http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.jhtml

HeLp!!!!!!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-17 12:19 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28911#post28911

I tryed that but it did not work!! it says:









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HeLp!!!!!!!

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-16 11:20 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28905#post28905

:D I need help making a movie! Can somebody show me how to do it freely?? I wish I could ask someone right now maybe You guys are too busy....

Time for a TT movie

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-16 11:18 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28904#post28904

It really did not work!Huh...:( I am not happy at all..

Time for a TT movie

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-16 10:57 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28902#post28902

Thanks:) for the help! I will finish my movie up some day...

Time for a TT movie

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-16 10:29 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28900#post28900

Well it is really the gif setup thingy..If it is not that kind then tell me..

Time for a TT movie

Forum: Hallowed Ground

Date: 2003-05-16 10:24 PM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28898#post28898

How did you make that movie??I am trying but minne does not have sound!!!

Post your favorite Screenshots!

Forum: Old ScreenShots

Date: 2003-05-16 04:47 AM

Original post: https://www.mmocentralforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=28787#post28787

A invisible GAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!